Speak Out Loud NA

Thursday, January 19, 2006

New Posting On Its Way!

We are working on the new posting, and will have it on-line by this evening.
We have been very busy doing some research, and gathering information on matters that are of significant concern.
We will share this data at a later date.
Meanwhile, we would like to know what positive things you folks see happening in New Albany. What do you think Mayor Garner has done to make New Albany a better community for EVERYONE to live in, and what do you anticipate for the remainder of his tenure?

126 Comments:

  • FBI-United States Justice Dept. will step in. Jimmy has done nothing for this City. Elected Office holders will go to jail in 2006.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:18 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • WOW.
    Wasn't expecting that to pop up.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 3:29 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • Our family feels it is going to be a really bad year for this administration, in its entirety. Too many people, wrapped up in too many things, which are all becoming unraveled, slowly but surely.

    This will be a good time for the citizens/taxpayers of NA, if the officials higher up do their jobs, as we are counting on them to do.

    We believe tonight's City Council meeting will be outrageous, and we don't even know what the agenda is, except for the reappointment of the committee people.

    Mr. Gahan, it is too obvious when you remove Coffee from Redevelopment and say you want to do it because you want to "shake things up". When asked about Mr. Messer, "he wants to stay on there". Well, do you think Mr. Schmidt would like to stay on the Ceasar's committee, or did you ask Coffee if he wanted to stay on Redevelopment. Logic is dictating here, Mr. Gahan. If you were so displeased with the lack of sewer information you were getting, you had no choice but to put the lone Republican back on to that board, but you also put Mr. Kochert back on. Maybe no one else wanted that one. Can't say I blame them.

    And to all citizens, Mr. Gahan is toughening up on his "gaveling". You should not repeat the words "for all" after everyone else has said them, because you might get in to some troubles -- at least, THAT'S THE RUMOR MILL.

    Speak out NA, but you may want to take a five minute timer with you, just to make sure you get your five minutes. If they could just follow the LEGAL ORDER of the Agenda, wouldn't that be wonderful?

    We will never understand how the Council can break their own LAW. We remind you, we didn't write the law, we are only expected to follow the law. Why not them? Every year someone asks this question, and blah, blah, blah...

    Don't know who your first anonymous poster was, but I gotta agree on that subject, something has to give or we're just going to slide on in to the Ohio River in our own sewage.

    Our ramblings and opinions and our Freedom of Speech. Thank you for the opportunity to address some of our concerns.

    By Anonymous N A Taxpayer, at 3:55 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • I see new business' sprouting and growing! I see neighborhood associations working together and getting things done.
    I see information being put out there, and made available to those who would normally not know what's going on!

    I see people continuing to disagree, but that's normal right!?

    I see New Albany getting better!

    By Blogger ceece, at 4:37 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • It's like watching a train wreck in New Albany. Spending totally out of control. EPA fines...audit nightmare.... more lawsuits...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:06 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • Ceece, they'll maul you, but you're right.

    When I read the (typically) anonymous comment following yours, I just have to wonder: Does that person value success, achievement, making things better?

    All I see is self-loathing and bitterness ... but let's leave Dan Coffey out of it, okay?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 10:23 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • Keep on hiding your head in the sand, New Albanian. Please don't come crying to any of us when you find out what is really going on in this town, and I'm really trying to assume you are not part of the problemos. Take care.
    Our opinions, and thoughts, as they may be.

    By Anonymous Anon, Please, at 11:46 PM, January 19, 2006  

  • Some people can put blinders on and not see anything but what is directly in front of them.
    It doesn't matter if folks have raw sewage backing up in their basements, as long as it's not their basement, everything is great.
    It doesn't matter if some people are living in unsafe housing because the City won't enforce housing standards, but, if their housing conditions are fine, then everything is great.
    It doesn't matter if additional fees and rate hikes will mean less food in some households, as long as they can afford it, everthing is great.
    Get the idea?
    Look a little further than your own front door, your own business interests, and your own ambitions.
    Look at what the MAJORITY of citizens in New Albany are having to live with, and then look at your own selfish self and say it doesn't matter to you. All you see is good stuff? TAKE YOUR BLINDERS OFF!!! Look at the truth.
    Then try to face yourself in the mirror. I swear, I don't know how you can.
    The political posturing going on in this town is a silly game of "tag you're it", and these new folks in town are falling for it.
    Sorry boys, but I think you hitched your wagon to the wrong horse.
    Just wait and see.
    Meanwhile, the rest of us would like to see things get better for EVERYONE. Not just the select few.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:16 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • Echoing Ceece and adding new residents to the list of positives as more people realize the value of living downtown. As Scribner Place takes shape, it will become symbolic of the many smaller efforts occurring all around it and act as a beacon, helping to bring attention to the area and its improvements. As a local banker told me Wednesday, "Getting that project going will really help people take notice".

    By Blogger bluegill, at 1:17 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • That project is going to bankrupt New Albany.
    You can't let one project suck all your resources into one place.
    True economic revitalization requires sufficient infrastructure.
    Something New Albany cannot provide.
    Bad people will make bad decisions for bad reason.
    Guaranteed failure.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:22 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • ...and the culture of failure so dear to some New Albanians will slowly begin to fade into the past.

    By Blogger bluegill, at 1:26 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • Scribner place will not save downtown nor generate all the business you all seem to assume!

    You might get new business downtown but let's see how long they stay.

    The actions of this mayor and his clowns will and is the downfail of this adminstration.

    The writing is on the wall! To damn bad your all to blind to see it.

    never....never....under estimate the power of the little people of New Albany.

    Some good advice "Boys" you truly don't want to continue to attack and slander Gary Mc Cartin...

    He's smarter than you all and as they say "money talks and bull-shit walks"....He can combine all of you together and buy you all for a dime!!!!!!!

    keep badmouthing him and you will see. Cause you won't be able to hide behind the "Mayor's Skirt" anymore.

    G/M money helped elect James Garner!!!!

    Right "SPEAK OUT LOUD NA".
    These boys need a real education uh.....

    Have you boys not been taught you don't bite the hand that feeds you. Or should I say feeds you all...

    But then again you know all this....again Right<<$@%?$#

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:13 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • Is your $8 pint half full or half empty? Thanks to Roger Baylor and Mayor James Garner, mine is half full.
    Roger Baylor--Best Satirist, Better than Ben Franklin
    James Garner--Best Mayor New Albany ever had
    Destination Booksellers--Best Local Downtown Book Destination
    Sir Tim Deatrick--Best little person to take shots at
    The New Albany Sewers--Best ongoing topic with such new SOLNAisms like "dancing manhole covers", CONCERNTAXPAYER and many others

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:20 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • City Council meeting on Thursday.

    Why was Bookseller Smith up at the
    council table giving Pres. Gahan the
    instructions on how to run the City
    Council meeting? Why can't Pres GAhan stand on his own two feet?

    The sewers are full because the city of New Albany is going down the drain with all of the other rubbage.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:29 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • Ah, East Ender, there's the rub.

    I've yet to read a blogger -- any blogger, or for that matter, anyone at all -- come out in favor of raw sewage, substandard housing or pointless expenditures.

    There is universal agreement.

    Are these the only issues?

    No, obviously they're not. Do they pertain only to the current administration? Obviously, they don’t. It took decades to get where we are, and it will take years to advance beyond the errors of the past.

    But one positive, reality-based and hopeful way to help "all" the citizens is to advance prospects for the local economy, concurrent with addressing problems like these.

    Since the exurb's doing just fine, and a certain proportion of the populace is comfortable with sprawl, attention must be devoted to downtown, hence my sole and only beef with the likes of The Gary: His "expertise" is fine for the open spaces of the exurb, but not for the in-fill contingencies and unique development possibilities offered to us downtown.

    For solutions to these downtown problems, we’ve done no more than look to those locales that have succeeded, and we find certain strategies and mechanisms applicable to our own unique set of circumstances.

    Every week there’s something positive to report, and my doing so has to do with self-interest strictly in the sense of wanting a better place to live. Rest assured that my company will be making far less profit on the beer we sell off-premise than the money to be derived from selling it on-site.

    So why am I doing it? To assist a fellow businessman in establishing a destination restaurant in downtown New Albany, because I believe that a successful dining venue will bring people downtown, money to downtown, and attention to downtown.

    Investment will follow. While not a panacea, Scribner Place will be helpful, as well, because it will bring people and their wallets downtown.

    This will not resemble the development strategies of the exurb, because downtown is different from the exurb, and it must mantain this difference. It cannot compete in the same areas, so it should not try. The object is to find resources that are undervalued, and to build upon them. Downtown possesses these in abundance.

    Does any of this imply a lessening in commitment to resolving the problems mentioned previously?

    Of course not, and it has at no time been suggested otherwise.

    The general response to all this from the courageous anonymous posters here at SOLNA has been to denigrate any and all attempts to accomplish downtown revitalization, to propose models for such that are not applicable in the year 2006, and all in all, to insist that such efforts are doomed to failure and that, instead of investing in the future, all available funds should be deployed to grapple with the jaundiced ghosts of the past.

    This is short-sighted in the extreme, but then again, I don't believe that many of you actually believe it yourselves. It's something more primal than decisions based on reasoning and facts -- and, as such, regrettable.

    But it's never too late to start all over again, is it?

    There is a small and growing cadre of talented and dedicated individuals who are remaking downtown from the ground up. They’re out there, and they’re working. They are part of the solution, not part of the problem.

    I realize that none of this will appease those among you who are obsessed by the politics of personal disgruntlement.

    Be aware, however, that time marches on, irrespective of your desire to stop it.

    Too bad for those who never grasp this.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 9:36 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • ANON-9:29--WHAT INSTRUCTIONS DID SMITH GIVE TO GAHAN----THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING????

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:45 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • Blinders do not just fit one "side".

    I would be interested in some reponses to:

    Pretend the sewer issues are resolved. Now what?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 9:58 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • BOOKSELLER SMITH GIVING PRES GAHAN HIS INSTRUCTIONS! ARE YOU KIDDING?

    WHAT DID SMITH TELL GAHAN TO DO?

    I HAD WONDERED WHO WAS COACHING GAHAN AND NOW, IT APPEARS TO BE CLEAR.

    DID YOU NOTE ON THE AGENDA ON THE WEB THAT PRES GAHAN LEFT SEABROOK, CRUMP,KOCHERT AND MESSER ON THEIR SAME BOARDS AND THEN GAHAN BOOTED SCHMIDT, AND COFFEY .

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:34 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • DUH----there was good reason to put kochert back on the board---- when sewer rates go up 30% in a few weeks---and they will----I want kochert on that board because he deserves part of the blame---I am glad gahan did not bail him out before this happens----and it will

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:36 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • What would Council President Gahan do if he could not look to the back of the council meeting room and get his
    signals from his DIRECTORS on how to
    act and proceed with the Council meetings?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:37 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • the baseless allegations and LIES are what make this blog uncredible.

    What proof do you have that Mr. Smith was "coaching" gayhan?

    Is he not allowed to speak with members of the council? or is that only the privelage of the "little people"

    seriously, that is about the lamest thing I have read on here.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:34 AM, January 20, 2006  

  • Could someone explain the "signals".

    Are they something like the signals used in baseball?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:35 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE COMPETITIVE HIGH SCHOOL BALL GAMES.

    THE PROGRESSIVE-AETHEISTS GROUP TOGETHER IN THE BACK CORNER OF THE
    ROOM WITH TORAN, LADUKE AND TIM DEITRICK.

    THE VOCAL CITIZENS LOCATE IN THE FRONT ROWS OF SEATING WITH THE CAMERAMAN.

    I GUSESS THOSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO
    RIGHT NOW OR HAVEN'T MADE UP THIER MINDS.

    WE SHOULD TAKE UP A DONATION AND BUY THEM ALL T-SHIRTS TO IDENTIFY EASH OF THIER GROUPS.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:56 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • When is the last time any citizen was on their knees talking with the Council President immediately before a meeting commences?
    It is not only bad appearances, it is bad policy.
    The Council is the arm of local Government that is supposed to represent the people, and represent them without bias. I don't think that can be said of the current situation.
    Why were the only Council members taken off Committees the ones who didn't vote for Gahan?
    I think that's pretty obviously a "payback" sort of move.
    This Mayor's term cannot run out soon enough. The antics that have been played are childish and have nothing to do with the best interest of the City or the public.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:01 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • progressive-athiest group???

    Yeah real bunch of open-minded civic activist you got going here.

    what a shame and an embarassing representation of your group SOLNA.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:09 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • laura you weren't at the meeting were you? so how would you know?

    Did you run right over to miss Valla's house and watch for things that aren't there? Even then it woudn't have mattered, he wasn't taping before the meeting.

    You just cannot go off of heresay, you look foolish and decidedly ingnorant folks.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:11 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • After attending years of Council meetings, some of us didn't even have to be there, the report was so accurate on the other blogs (though there must have been a hearing issue when it came to the Schmidt/Gahan debate).
    It has been verified by various Council members to me about Mr. Smith and Mr. Gahan's coziness before the meeting, and how it did come across, or appear, or seem, to some people. Everything is allowed their own opinion, right.

    Don't sell people short because they may not have appeared to be there. You keep with your flock, and we'll keep with ours.

    Have a good 'un. Our opinions and ramblings, etc.

    By Anonymous GAVELING GAHAN'S SHOW, at 1:25 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Was Shirley bending down talking to Steve while he was seated at the Council table?

    By Anonymous Next!, at 1:45 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Oh, you never know where I might be, or what I might be doing, now do you?
    No fools here.
    The only ignorant people I can see are the ones who refuse to look at the whole picture, but rather just their little piece of the puzzle.
    Go ahead and hang onto Garner's coat tails, and we'll see how it all turns out in the end.
    What are you going to do when he gets nailed for not adhearing to State and Federal agreements, demands, and procedures?

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:46 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Was Shirley bending down on one knee talking with Steve AT THE COUNCIL TABLE? Hmmmm.

    By Anonymous Next?, at 1:46 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Wonder how that happened? Typed a response to The New Albanian, and it appears before his comment. Interesting stuff out here in the cyber world.

    By Anonymous Next?, at 1:48 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • So, let me get this straight: It's bad form for Randy to chat with Jeff Gahan ... so what is it when Shirley Baird glad-hands Steve Price?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 1:48 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Is Steve Price the Council President? No.
    He is, however, one CM that we know we can trust.
    There you go comparing apples and oranges again.
    Will you ever learn?
    I doubt it.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:50 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • the double-standards are insane around here.

    It's a shame that some people have to go through life so negative. What a bitter, angry, sad person that makes.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:51 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • The due date for Georgetowns $2 million payment due to our Sewer Department has come and gone.
    Rumor has it that they will be building their own sewer plant and we will never see that money.
    Now they want to strap this mistake on the backs of the rate payers. How pathetic.
    I've been warning folks to watch out for this one. Now, here it comes. Do you really think this guy has made good decisions, or gotten good legal advise?
    And, the attorneys who worked on the deal with Georgetown are now suing the City for their fees.
    Let's all get on our knees and thank this wonderful Mayor for one mistake after another that is costing the citizens of this City way too much.
    WE WILL NOT PAY FOR HIS BLUNDERS!

    By Blogger East Ender, at 2:02 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Was Shirley bending down on one knee talking with Steve AT THE COUNCIL TABLE? Hmmmm.

    By Anonymous Next?, at 2:03 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • so the mayor should have been able to get the city of Georgetown to pay, when the lawyers can't?

    riiiiiiiight.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:05 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Gosh. Poor Mr. Gahan must be real lonely if he is not allowed to talk to citizens of New Albany while he is council president.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:08 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • amen 2:08!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:19 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Only when he is seated at the Council table preparing for a meeting is this behavior unappropriate.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:26 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • So tell me Mr. Know-it-all,
    What fund are they raiding to pay the Drainage employees from until the Stormwater fees are collected?
    Would that be the sewer fund?
    So, who lied about this not being a drain on the sewer funds?
    Oh, they're going to "pay it back" right? Just like they have paid back every other "loan" taken from sewers?
    Sounds like another game of shell shuffle to me.
    Cover it up and they can never guess where it is, where it's coming from, or where it's going.
    Where is the real audit for sewers? Just monthly financial reports won't get it.
    How can you justify a rate increase when you don't have an accurate picture of the finances?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:39 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Oh, but you must remember, they can't see the whole picture.
    As long as there are no problems with the sewers in their houses or their businesses, everythings OK.
    They don't care how it's done.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 2:42 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • I did talk to Councilman Price for a minute before a Council Meeting. I was standing upright. FYI we were not discussing government policy, we were discussing mutual friends.

    Previously, I had said a few words to other Council Members, there again, I was not discussing policy.

    I am flattered to know that people think I wield so much power in this town.

    Shirley Baird

    By Blogger shirley baird, at 3:07 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • RESPOND TO: 2:02
    CT told all of you weeks ago NO-$$$$ from Georgetown...No deal, would build their own plant and etc. duh! How soon you all forgot!

    Some people need to focus on "selling beer and books" instead of hiding behind the mayor.

    Which is on his way out. Because none of you got that much money to buy the next election!

    You baylorites need to start knocking on citizens doors and feel the pulse of New Albany. "Mad as Hell does not even come close to what you will hear."

    Now just prove me wrong R&R. And don't give me or us this C.R.A.P. for not signing our names.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:10 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Sounds to me like you guys are making up these rules, like who can talk to who and when, as you go along. And you change them whenever it works for you.

    It's no fun to play with kids like you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:13 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • You go Shirley! Have these boys got a real wake up call comin...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:14 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • it sounds like Shirley and Randy rule the city!

    Tell us how did you guys get all the power!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:16 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • This City and Council continues to violate our rights. And none of you are above the law.

    If we hear "I don't know" one more time from Garner. We will purchase a case of bumper stickers and plaster them on every street sign in New Albany. WATCH US DO IT!!!

    "James Garner the I don't know Mayor."

    How damn stupid do you all think the taxpayers of New Albany are!

    The little people will "REBEL WITH A RATH THAT NONE OF YOU CAN EVEN IMAGINE."
    Not a threat. Just a real promise.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:24 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Amen!
    anonymous 3:24
    sign me up.
    I'll pay for a damn case of stickers myself.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:30 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Historian Richard Hofstadter identified a phenomenon known as "paranoid style."

    It applies to many of today's anonymous postings.

    Erase this if you like, but it does not mean the phenomenon of paranoia goes away.

    In fact, the usual heavy-handed censorship merely confirms the paranoia.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 3:47 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • anon 3:24

    Do you know that you will be breaking a law by doing that?
    What would make you any better the the mayor then?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:50 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • You can buy the bummpstickers, in other words, just don't post them on the street signs. That's the law you are insinuating, right?
    Thought so. Thanks.

    We have heard Georgetown opened bids 3 weeks ago, and the Hughes Group won the bid; just been waiting on the Courier Journal to print it.

    Paranoia will destroy ya...except in this town, a healthy case of paranoia stays with a lot of us, hey, boys and girls?

    Take care...and Georgetown, give us our $2 million...the Sewer Board needs it to fix what they didn't fix in '97.....what a friggin joke.

    You think we're stupid, after how many free flushers are still free flushing in this town? Check yourself at the door. We've got those stats too. Bring 'em on.

    By Anonymous FED UP SEWER CUSTOMER, at 4:26 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • I guess no one has any ideas of what to do in NA after the sewers are fixed(whenever that may be). I asked that question 6 hours ago and all we have here is a "tennis match". Blinders?! If that is not the pot calling the kettle...

    Can anyone here do anything other than complain? A while back I asked about who people would like to see as mayor and why. There were two replies.

    I know that there are legitimate things to complain about and try to correct. Does anyone have any ideas about the future? Trying to fix things and trying build things are not mutually exclusive.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 4:28 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Priceless answer from the Mayor.

    Someone on the council asked the Mayor if the 2006 City Budget had been approved yet.

    His Answer: WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:38 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • NEVER DID SEE A LIST OF THE MAYORS GOOD WORKS FROM YHE R&R BOYS

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:03 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • I just read the most fascinating post by Erik over on FOS. It was posted Tuesday. I can't believe that I missed it all week.

    Did you know that as citizens of NA we are not "directly" affected by the County elections? In complete fairness, "directly" was in italics. Even so, I do believe that I pay Floyd County taxes. At least I am pretty sure. Yeah, I do. So do you. I believe that makes me DIRECTLY interested and affected.

    Now if Professor Erik wanted to turn that around and say to the Floyd residents, who are not citizens of NA, that they are not directly affected by CITY elections, he would be correct.

    Some professor of Political Science. Folks, this is pretty basic. If Erik can't get that correct, what can you believe from him/her?

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 5:47 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • FYI to whomever takes notice of where I sit at council meetings: 1. I am not an aetheist, but I am not Christian. 2. I usually do sit in the back, but if you makes you feel left out maybe I wil sit next to you next time. 3. Next time try and spell my name right DEATRICK . 4. You neglected the fact that one of yours, Maurice King aslo sat in the back row, so does that mean he has switched to ours side now?

    By Blogger Tim Deatrick, at 6:04 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • TO IAMHOOSIER:

    Didn't see your posting asking that question. The skies are unlimited what we could do with an infrastructure downtown and within the rest of the inner city.

    We have this wonderful Greenway coming in. We have the Mansion Row residents having planning sessions regarding their neighborhood and sporting some beautiful bed and breakfast inns.

    Antique shops, whether you are in to them or not, boom over here in little old New Albany. Only my opinion, but I always figure they think we may be a little dense here, rather than over on Bardstown Road. (Just a joke).

    We have the old Mosier Tanner factory which Al Goodman has wonderful plans for, and the public came through for tours.

    If, and I know, if that bullfrog had wings, but if we can get our infrastructure, ALL THE MONIES, etc., in order (in other words find out how much we do have, before we pledge it to another project, which I think we did), possibilities are unlimited.

    Because what that end results means is maybe little old New Albany won't be considered, as I've always heard and been told, the crooked little town it is associated and looked upon as.

    These are simply our ramblings and opinions, and we'll be blasted as rumurs. Have a Good Day.

    By Anonymous Interested Citizen, at 6:29 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • hey Timmy, I will give you 35 cents to call someone who cares. God, what does it take to make all this hot air go away!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:43 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • To interested citizen,

    Good! Thank you!! Can we talk about how to do these things? How to help, what needs to be included, where things should be, etc.

    Do some of the people "over here" realize that for some of us "independents" we are only getting these kinds of ideas from "over there"? Go back and look at the blogs from the past 4 months or so.

    Thanks so much for responding to my question.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 6:48 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Iamhoosier

    That's why the County has 3 Million Dollars in their General Fund.
    City-$0.00
    The County election does not affect us idiot!
    What kind of $12 pint you drinkin?

    By Blogger One voice, at 6:48 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • To IAMHOOSIER: We are talking about how to do some of these things, and yes, we are all in it together.
    Yes, I have noticed several threads of commonality between most of us, also.
    The degradation of some of the buildings downtown are shameful. We've known young people getting out of school, renting in these areas (whom are our future), yet have problems with flooring, plumbing, electrical issues, etc.
    Maybe we can force these owners to bring their buildings up to code, but we have worked for ten years or more on that issue, and we have now a good Code Enforcement Officer, but not Building Code Officer.
    Tell me, IAMHOOSIER, howcome Louisville's Fire Marshall has to mandatory inspect ALL rental property in Louisville? Howcome if there are any building code violations found in Louisville, entered into without landowners' consent, they only have X amount of days to fix it -- even if they are out of the country? That'd be something, hey?
    It's going to be an ardurous process, no one doesn't understand that. It's trying to get the rest in place first. Like, you know, at least ONE TIME put the HORSE before the CART. Just Once?

    Nice talking to you. Our opnions and ramblings only, though. Hope they aren't construed as anything ELSE. Thank you.

    By Anonymous Interested Citizen, at 7:07 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • The rumors mill shurz is workin today aft that there meetin' last nite.

    Toni, our family thinks u mite hav to wate on the edge of yur chair ther fur that n'xt isue of that Forum to find out what scandals u may be tied to...how Gallation Church doin' Mr. Toni? BIG net work here, Toni, and we hav all herd. Be sure and take car. Just rumorz, tho, rite? Or, ramblings of a lunatic? OK...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:15 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • "one of ours, Maurice King"...

    Be careful, Timmy, he's not an office holder. One of who's, Timmy?

    Are you trying to slander a perfectly nice citizen in order to gradiose yourself? Probably. Ever heard of what happens when you publish things about people that DON'T HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE?

    And the part "you are not an Athiest, but you are not Christian". Try not to take this to harshly, but a lot of us think and feel you have no clue as to WHAT YOU ARE, except a fake, and that's sad. All you have is your name, and I haven't seen a lot of credibility associated with same lately. Oh I know you may think so, but trust me, you are delusional. Our family is sincerely glad you are now the 'STRING' Reporter for Randy. Good luck. Please, stick to reporting over there. Thank you for listening to our opinions as a family.

    By Anonymous Family Values, at 7:21 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Iamhoosier's comments v.v. Erik are admirable, but of course Erik is a figment of CT's tortured and self-loathing imagination, so there'll be no response.

    It's regrettable that such a paragon of dysfunction can pose as a college professor -- rather like my cat's belief that she is Sigmund Freud -- but the sky's the limit here in anonymous deception land.

    Shirley, are you aiding and abetting this disgrace of "Erik's"?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 7:35 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Thank goodness this conversation has taken a turn towards better things and trying to develop a better future for New Albany.
    We are not against progress, and we don't want things to be this bad in the City, but the real facts are, it IS.
    We must take care of certain areas of concern before we can gleefully go about making positive changes for economic growth.
    Work from the ground UP. We must have a solid foundation to build on.
    The new posting will build on these positive possibilities.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 7:51 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Is Gallation Church in New Albany?
    Where is it? Not sure what you are
    talking about. Is that the same Toni who is so thick with all the aethiests?

    New Albany is getting wild and dangerous. Aetheists--progressives- and preachers.

    Do they have any police protection at those City Council meetings?

    They have said that they tape those meeings. Bet they are best sellers.
    Where can we buy a copy?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:11 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • THEY HAVE ALL THE POLICE PROTECTION AT THOSE CITY COUNTY MEETINGS, NOT THE PUBLIC. Just ask 'em.

    By Anonymous Interested Citizen, at 8:20 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • newalbanian(boy)

    blah..blah...blah...
    Will let Gary McCartin handle you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:32 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • We need honest politicians. Where can we find some?
    Not in this adminstration. Nothing but crooks..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:47 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Gallation Church be out near that thar area of Vance nere Vincennes and Grant line rodes. Sumthin bout the buldeing funs or sumthin. Mo ravengs of a luntic.

    By Anonymous Anon, at 9:01 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • roger

    looks like Erik is kickin your ass!
    Your a.s. info is wrong. Read it and wonder.
    You finally met your match
    ruger the bully

    are you jealous ...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:07 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • I liked it better when it was Born Free Inc? Made any insurance claims lately?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:12 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Too much ground clutter out here about this Erik person (or Eric). Where are you all fighting this battle at? It doesn't appear to be on here?

    By Anonymous ???'s, at 9:18 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Talk about ground clutter.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 9:43 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • non-religious and athiest aren't the same thing.

    I haven't asked them, (and I bet noone else has) but do you know that they don't believe in anything greater then themselves?

    I sat back there at the meeting and stood to pray, so clearly not everyone who sat back there is a progressive-athiest or whatever ridiculous title someone came up with.

    Watch those generalizations!

    PS why do you care who stands to pray and who doesn't?

    By Blogger ceece, at 9:45 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • tim deatrick

    No you love to stalk women!

    ouch!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:00 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • It doesn't matter who chooses to stand, or who chooses to sit. That is an individual's right.
    Although I personally consider myself agnostic, I stand out of respect for others.
    I don't think Roger knows much about respecting other people.
    Anonymous or not, Erik or others, there are real people behind these comments.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 10:04 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • "Non-religious and athiest aren't the same" - per Ceece. Who said they were, Ceece? There's that reading comprehension problemo again!
    Might want to reread things again.

    By Anonymous Reading Comp 101, at 10:11 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • Naturally, Laura tolerates the anonymous poster who viciously mimics the African-American dialect while anonymously attacking Tony Toran, and then she's able to keep a straight face while accusing others of not having respect.

    Perhaps she is forgetting what it's like to be the target of racist or homophobic comments like these.

    The double standard goes on, and on, and on.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 10:52 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • "African-American dialect"? Shucky durn, we thot it was that hillbilly or good ole IN country boy style of talking that y'all make fun of Steve Price on. Saying he don't have no education and he is ignorant, etc. There was no slur there intended, it's just a country way of saying thangs, ya know what I mean? You Wish It Meant That! We understand that....that's why we did a parody of you talking about Steve Price. Now, how do you feel, especially when it's coming to you delivered especially from an anonymous source with a face behind it, for sure (several matter of fact).
    Our ramblings, and opinions, New Albanian. Thanks for the insinuations, and the intent of looking for criminal actions on the part of us here loony tunes, New Albanian. Have another pint while you plost again. Hey, is that a new word?

    Questions anyone? Thanks for letting us air our opinions, rumors, freedom of speech, etc.

    By Anonymous A Face W/O A Name to NALBANIAN, at 11:11 PM, January 20, 2006  

  • I assume character assassination is ok too on this blog, better be able to defend your accusations should lawyers get involved, I.P addresses can be traced, so get ready Laura you may see yourself in a pickle, of course you could always delete all the libelous comments and keep ypurself out of trouble

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:18 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • Character assassination of whom? What a joke that one is...lost on our family. Give us a break. Slanderous...Give us a break.

    Get back with that satire of Steve Price over on the other blogs. Thought we'd try our hand talking like you all do. Have a good one, and be sure and get all those URLs... Our Freedom Of Speech and opinions, much to your dismay, WE ARE SURE.

    By Anonymous YA GOTTA BE KIDDING, at 1:57 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • And have another one while you are at it, okay? Thanks, good nite NA...stay tuned. How darst' we speak and use their "twangs" and "misspellings" when they refer to certain Council members. Karma, good old fashioned karma. Didn't like it when it came back around -- oh, shucky durn. Our opioniated selves here. My, how the tables can turn... Our family's opinions, especially when you retrieve our URL...

    By Anonymous URLS, URLS, URLS,...THREATS, at 2:00 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • NOT A RUMOR:
    Police Officer Charles Miller, recently arrested for a DUI offense, has been given a slap on the hand suspension, but will keep his job, according to the Police Merit Commission.
    A 20+ year vetren of the force, and one time Chief, will be allowed to continue as an officer, although demoted, until his retirement.
    What do you folks think about this?

    By Blogger East Ender, at 2:15 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • Libelous?
    We expect a retraction and an apology:

    New Albany Today-
    bluegill said...
    East Ender,

    I'll make you a bet. If Maury doesn't report back with findings about ONA's case, I'll apologize for calling you a liar. If he does, you admit to being a liar (since the accusation you just made about him would then be a lie).

    Fair?
    1/11/2006 5:07 PM

    By Anonymous Calling you out, at 3:05 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • mayors blogs
    newalbanytoday
    vh
    nac

    valla's blog
    did

    peoples blogs
    freedomofspeech
    speakoutloudna

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:09 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • I WONDER, What goin' on down in the sewers today????

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:58 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • Dunno, why don't you tell us? Thanks.

    By Anonymous Anon, at 8:36 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • We think it's sort of tragic for he and his family, especially after listening to his daughter on the news last night talking about the danger he is to everyone with the drinking.
    Hopefully, he will be able to get his life together and all will be safe.
    That'd be our opinionated selves.

    By Anonymous Opiniated, at 10:53 AM, January 21, 2006  

  • trying to kick an officer when he's down E.E.? if you are you have no right to talk about anybody not showing any respect, let those without sins be the first to cast stones, repent sinner

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:48 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • EastEnder, "they" can't even understand the question you asked, which was "what do we think about the actions taken against the Officer." Our family does not see any slander or kicking someone down by asking the community's opinion over something as important as "public safety".

    Me doth think you protest too much!
    Our family's answer to Laura's question, via the last anon posting about EE. Thanks for asking, EE.

    By Anonymous Another Opinion, at 2:17 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Officer Miller should be relegated to desk duty. He's dangerous. He has a problem and needs help.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:20 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • it was phrased as a question to east end , read the post before you state that it was a protest to your blog priest.

    me doth think you cant read or dont want to read what is actually written

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:35 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Ahhhhh, do we have a Holy Roller on board? Now I'm being called a "sinner"? You guys might want to be REAL careful about the name calling. It can be expensive.
    After all, you really have no idea who's reading all this, now do you? I do.
    Try as you may, you can't shut us up, scare us off, or shut us down.
    Are you scared that we might actually be keeping the citizens informed? You're right!
    Are we not supposed to ask questions about our Police, our Fire, our safety, our health?
    I reported what I heard on the news in regards to Officer Miller. Nothing more, nothing less, other than asking what folks think.
    I intended no disrespect, nor did I "kick" anyone while they were down.
    Opinions are one thing, but facts is facts folks.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:16 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • And your point is?

    By Anonymous Anon, at 4:48 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • To "and we are all sinners", Your Point Is?

    By Anonymous Anon, at 4:49 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • but we are all sinners

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:50 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Nice try.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 4:56 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Yay! The century mark again!

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 6:42 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Ground Clutter Letting You Know They CAN COUNT, at least, to 100. We are all so happy for you. Have a good evening.

    By Anonymous So glad Counting is Still Taught, at 8:43 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Dictionary...check
    Thesaurus...check
    Calculator...check
    Ego...check
    Respect...none
    Manners...none
    Reality Check...past due
    Elitist? You betcha!
    Juz R 'pinions fer 'ol Roger Dodger

    By Anonymous Inventory Manager, at 10:08 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Talking to a Council member, who I do wish to keep anonymous -- I INVOKE THE FIFTH -- (and back to East Ender's original question) they, and our family feel Gahan is way out of line and the Mayor is done, he just doesn't have the sense to keep his head down.
    Too many scandals; too many people he surrounded himself with that are truly "inept" and most, not all, are not qualified for their jobs. Do you think they may have job descriptions?

    We'd like to look at the oath of Office they took, each and every one of them, and see what that teaches all of us.

    No support here for this "Admin"; now the one blogs' ranting and raving about the "Gang of Four", and what has been mentioned for the other side of the room "Garner's Goons", and then you have "Flipper" (sorry, our nickname for the lone Republican). Hope he doesn't take that personally -- but after the punishments for certain Votes, some Council members took, in my eyes, unconscionable actions.

    The repercussions and fallout should be tremendous, shouldn't it? We'll see. These are the opinions of something that's been around for awhile, watching, and learning. Quite a curve ball.

    Thank you for the forum/outlet. Electronic medium may be the best thing that has happened to POLITICS in a long timmmee...


    It will be an interesting Year, for ALL OF US.

    By Anonymous New Albany Resident, at 10:12 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • NEWALBANIAN: Get your redneck dictionary out (borrow one from Randy), because you may need one shortly. This really should be fun...one parody after another. Jeff Foxworthy has it down pat, and he is truly one funny guy, being a homegrown redneck country kind of boy. Our opinions.

    By Anonymous NEWALBANIARESIDENT, at 10:16 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • I would also like to make perfectly clear that I am not an AETHEIST either.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. As far as I'm concerned anyone can be whatever they want but it's not for me.

    Steve LaDuke

    By Blogger S. LaDuke, at 10:36 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Steve, I don't hold it against you.

    That GOP thang, on the other hand ... doesn't your congressman have better things to do than debate cosmology with me?

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 11:00 PM, January 21, 2006  

  • Yeah, well Steve, you know how they say it's all about the company you keep......

    By Blogger East Ender, at 12:27 AM, January 22, 2006  

  • It's called "birds of a feather flock together", rememeber? Take care NA. Our opiniated selves.

    By Anonymous Opinions, Only, at 3:44 AM, January 22, 2006  

  • steve, pretty judgemental last night weren't they?

    keep true to yourself and you'll be alright!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:49 AM, January 22, 2006  

  • GOD read this blogspot and pronounced it SINFUL.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:57 AM, January 22, 2006  

  • NA RESIDENT----OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS COFFEY OR SCHMIDT---PROBABALY SCHMIDT

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:26 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • Your Answer Back would be wrong, on both counts. Don't worry, it surprised me, too.

    By Anonymous NA Resident, at 12:33 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • NEW ARTICLE ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH---

    WHY WAS THIS MATTER KEPT SO QUIET IF IT IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD AND THE MAYOR AND CONTROLLER MET WITH THE STATE BOARD OF ACCOUNTS ON THIS. WHY DID THEY SET ON IT?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:38 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • Indiana State Board of Accounts Department needs to know that City Audit matters are being kept secret by the City Administration. If money was missing and had to be paid back to the
    City, why was this not made public?

    So-- it won't do any good for the City of New Albany to have a State Audit
    if the results are not made public.

    Who can we talk to at the state level?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:49 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • RE: the Freedom of Speech Article.

    This is indeed a sad state of affairs. This Adminstration is going to fall like a stack of cards.

    By Anonymous Legal Beagle, at 2:21 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • It is a good article on Freedom of Speech. Isn't it typical of the way this administration has been operating since day 1?

    This City's excuses with their computer problems are getting really old. We can only hope the State is getting tired of their excuses, too.

    Citizens can call the State Board of Accounts, and talk with Charlie Pride (just luv that name). He's in charge of the auditing division, and very helpful.

    There are some funny things going on with the Sewer Board financials, too. This City had to have an Engineer on that Board threaten to quit because they had not seen any financials since the December before. Now, they get "monthly financials" from Millhauser. We can't figure out if we've been outsourced, or not. We can't figure out who is doing the books.

    One thing we do know though, is "they" (the Council Garner SAT ON) authorized and bought new computers, because of ALL THE PROBLEMS they were having with them under Overton's administration. Now they want to tell us those don't work either? Now, why don't we believe that one? Let us think on that one for a while!

    Good job Freedom of Speech. Keep up the GOOD work.

    Our family's opinions, only.

    By Anonymous Interesting Stuff There!, at 2:51 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • yvonne, i mean intersting stuff, since you are a finacial whiz and everything else you claim why dont you volunteer youruns expoticeeeeeee to that thar sewer board

    ous pinions only

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:59 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • Ya gotta wonder at that mind set. We are sure Yvonne will be thrilled you think she wrote the last posting, and that you think she is such a financial whiz. Are you saying no one else is aware of the sewer finances but her?

    Daggone it, we've sunk to a new low here. We now can't state our opinions without someone else taking credit for them.

    Sorry you didn't like our comments Freedom of Speech. As we said, those are our family's opinions, and we'll keep it at that.

    By Anonymous Interesting Stuff There, at 3:07 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • "Daggone it, we've sunk to a new low here."

    Wow -- now THAT'S incredible.

    By Blogger The New Albanian, at 3:23 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • anonymous 2:59PM -
    Go crawl back into your Mommy's house Timmy. You can't even begin to keep up.
    But, we'll be sure to let Yvonne know she was the topic of discussion here today.
    I'm betting it's really you guys who are paranoid.
    Scared of what might come back at your Good 'Ol Boy are 'ya?
    I would be too.

    By Anonymous Eye on NA, at 3:34 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • newalbanian-
    Why are you still hanging around here? Not enough to keep you busy?
    Gee, we thought we heard you say business was great!
    Guess we should know by now that you'll say anything to stay in the mix. Huh?
    You are a sad excuse for progressive.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:40 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • YVONNE OR SUSAN OR OTHER
    It's spelled Melhiser.
    BTW, my son, Timmy, is in Owensboro.
    MOM

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:07 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • Have you called and asked them to keep him yet?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:04 PM, January 22, 2006  

  • TRY OTHER -- DOWNRIGHT TOUCHY, ARE WE? SMILE...IT'S JUST MONEY.
    Our small opinions.

    By Anonymous OTHER, at 12:30 AM, January 23, 2006  

  • One voice,

    Thanks for the nickname of "idiot".

    Now would you please explain why I am an idiot? Just exactly why am I or any other NA citizen not directly affected by the county elections? What does the county having a balance vs. the city not having one have to do with being directly affected? Not disputing your "facts", just your connection.

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 10:48 AM, January 23, 2006  

  • One voice,

    Sorry, forgot to respond to your question.

    I get a discount on my pints since I REALLY do have a degree in Political Science!!

    By Blogger Iamhoosier, at 10:51 AM, January 23, 2006  

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