Speak Out Loud NA

Tuesday, November 01, 2005

Seek the Truth

Well, once again, the Mayor has pulled out all the stops, and is going to push his version of the Stormwater mandate through the Council, just like he has done with so many other issues. He will do it by silencing the public, the very souls that will have to cough up this money. The proper processes are once again being circumvented.
This issue in not about $3 per month, it's about $800,000 and the reasons for making this a much larger, much more expensive project than it needs to be. AGAIN!
Just like the Scribner project. We could have had a nice YMCA downtown without it costing the City a $17 million bond and obligating $400K out of EDIT funds for the next 17 years!!!
Could the YMCA itself not offer the impetus for downtown investment that they so often refer to? How much difference does that swimming pool really make?
What we are trying to do is move New Albany forward, out of the dark ages of the "good 'ol boy" political machine and into the information age where there are no hidden agendas, and everyone's voice is heard and RESPECTED.
We have not undertaken such an aggressive movement just because we like to fuss and spend all our free time at meetings. We have undertaken a venture to rid this town of fiscal irresponsibility and unfair political processes.
The goal is to PROGRESS this town towards sound financial footing, and cohesive efforts of revitalization in our neighborhoods and the downtown district. We are not looking for a fight. We are looking for cooperation.
Those who harass and ridicule are only thugs who want nothing more than to have their private interests served, regardless of the impacts on the less fortunate. Their brutish attacks are detrimental to any attempts that may be made towards a cooperative effort to better our City.
If you notice, they have very little to say in the way of addressing the issues. Rather, the rhetoric is only meant to humiliate and degrade. Why?
The people, who have come together with the intent of trying to making New Albany a better place to live, are concerned that it becomes a better place for EVERYONE. Not just a select few.
We are committed to serving the interests of every citizen who lives here.
I wish we could say the same for our elected officials.

120 Comments:

  • those with the most money usually end up getting what they want.

    By Blogger Vman, at 11:13 PM, November 01, 2005  

  • Excellento! Bravo.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:18 PM, November 01, 2005  

  • tho one mayor found out that wasn't true.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:18 PM, November 01, 2005  

  • Great article, Laura. Your concern and understanding for citizens of New Albany is appreciated.

    The sad part is that most of the citizens in New Albany don't even know what is about to hit them from this City Administration. They won't realize until the bill comes in their mailbox.

    On the news tonight, they siad that heating bills are expected to go up by 71%.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:38 PM, November 01, 2005  

  • Great article Laura,

    I wish the Baylorites would cooperate with us. If we had a cohesive populace maybe we would not have to work so hard to get the word out. But like you said, some people have their own interests in mind.

    Your selflessness and tireless efforts are appreciated by many. Please continue the good fight. The "underdogs" have to win one once in a while.

    By Blogger shirley baird, at 6:45 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Here's what Maury wrote today on his blog. Notice that it does NOT support the view that some people here claim he did.

    We'll wait for retractions.

    ---

    I have been ask several questions on this blog. I will be brief . A more answers to questions will come in the morning. I just wanted to clear up this point about fees.

    Is the Sanitation Department Fees helping to support the Sewer Fund?

    Nothing could be futher from the truth. I am sorry that some people who read my posting on the Sanitation Department came away with the opposite impression. For at least since 1982, garbage fees are listed with sewer fees, sewer fund have covered the shortfall in the garbage fees. There can be no misunderstanding about which fees covers the shortfall.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:06 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • You will find in New Albany politics,that you are much exposed to the attribution of false motive. This adminstrations is based on: Never complain and never explain.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:14 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Rosa Parks is indicative of all those folks in life, whose small, brave actions, without violence, speak thunderous actions. Without a sword, without a gun, without a shout. This small working woman, weary from her day's work, simply said "NO." And that "No" was heard by God. And it echoed throughout the mountains of heaven, and shook the world. Do you even know why? "The last shall be first, and the first shall be last."

    There's alittle bit of Rosa Parks in each and everyone of us.

    May her example shine to all who believe in truth and justice.

    By Anonymous LEGAL BEAGLE, at 8:49 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Thank you, Legal Beagle, for a great saying to start my day off here in New Albania.
    There should be questions asked of all the Councilmembers WHY they "LEASED" (no less), those BIG RED TRUCKS.
    Have a good day, NA

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:20 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Shirley,
    Shame someone can't call Doug up and tell him how they are referring to him and his Mafia style tactics on the other blog. Wonder what they would say if he confronted them, and as us Democrats know, England sanctioned and endorsed Garner for Mayor. Shocked they're using such words, ESPECIALLY if they believe it!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:28 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • From the dictionary, wehre it says MAFIA -- A tightly knit group of trusted associates, as of a political leader: “ [He] is one of the personal mafia that [the chancellor] brought with him to Bonn” (Christian Science Monitor).

    Every mayor has such, wouldn't you think?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:32 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Oops, I'm sorry, I forgot that dictionaries aren't used here.

    My bad.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:32 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Still no response to Maury...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:42 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • Responding to Maury's clarification would require Laura to make a retraction.

    Don't hold your breath on that one. She's more likely to transform Maury into a part of the Orwellian conspiracy than admit she was wrong.

    By Anonymous daffy, at 10:28 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • daffy

    You would not know fact from fiction. Laura has the facts and can back it up. And we all Support Laura and the Sanitation Dept.


    quack! quack! daffy...go back to your own pond...

    By Anonymous LEGAL BEAGLE, at 11:24 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • for some one posing so often as a lawyer, legal beagle doesn't seem to have much a grip on due process

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:50 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • talk amoung yourself other blogs

    We will not accept an olive branch, nor do we need a third party mediator. Facts are facts!
    Your all a bunch of right wing liberal progressive.

    Speak Out Loud NA represents the other 2/3 of New Albany. Get all of your facts correct. Again more smoke and mirrors you offer.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:55 AM, November 02, 2005  

  • uh, I believe that the referance to the "person" holding the olive branch, was of this blog.

    Careful-Reading can be tricky!

    By Blogger ceece, at 12:46 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • They have only proven my point that they are elitist thugs who delight in demeaning and disrespecting others.
    I stand by my assertions, based upon documentation and factual evidence I have been presented with.
    Others are entitled to their own opinions.
    They never fail to throw insults into the mix, which serve no purpose, and deserve no response.
    Let's move on.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:01 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • Laura, got those ping pong paddles ready yet? Have a good one, keep up the good work.

    By Anonymous Yvonne Kersey, at 1:03 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • Due process of law is a legal concept that ensures the government will respect all of a person's legal rights instead of just some or most of those legal rights, when the government deprives a person of life, liberty, or property. Due process has also been interpreted as placing limitations on laws or legal proceedings in order to guarantee fundamental fairness, justice, and liberty.

    The Fifth Amendment contains a guarantee of basic due process applicable only to actions of the government: "No person shall be...deprivated of life,liberty, or property, without due process of law...." The fourteenth Amendment contains the same phrase, but expressly applied to the States. The Supreme Court has interpreted the two clauses identically, so under the federal Constitution, there is no substantial difference is protection from federal or State action. However, State constitutions also have their own guarantees of due process that may, by their own terms or by the interpretation of that State judiciary, extend even more protection to individuals than under federal law.

    By Anonymous LEGAL BEAGLE, at 2:59 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • Thank you Legal Beagel! Have a good day!

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$, at 3:07 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • P.S. Make that Beagle... :)

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$, at 3:08 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • Maury has a good article today on NEWALBANYTODAY.BLOGSPOT.COM. Check, Check, Check it out...
    Have a good day, NA.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:17 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • anonymous

    Any more questions for legal beagle?
    Very impressive and Great Job legal beagle in explaining due process.
    Glad to see this blog...I look forward to adding it to my list of daily reads.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:34 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • you lose

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:57 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • Why are you afraid to post under your name, tim?

    By Anonymous it's tim deatrick, at 8:12 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • JIMMY G.
    YOU WORK
    FOR
    ME!

    By Blogger One voice, at 8:23 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • Because he's a weasel and a wierdo.
    His name carries no credibility and he knows it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:30 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • They can talk all the want about the so called gang of four. But I must say tim. Mr. Kochert sure put your ass in your place tonight. So why don't you Tim tell everybody how you live with your ""mommy"" and your not even a homeowner. Let alone a taxpayer! And like Mr. Kochert told you that you need to shut your mouth. Since your not even a taxpayer.. And I am going to not repeat the actual words that were said too you. Which were absolutely hysterical! Seems like alot of people put you in your place tonight. Seems like your at the top on that famous list of "wannabe's" of New Albany. And you were chomping at the bits to speak. And you just so happen to go outside the meeting and walk back in with a so called speech! But you could only read it because you had never even seen it. Til the mayor handed it to you!!!! Like Mr. King said you had only been to one meeting and you became an expert. On stormwater fees....Gosh tim you are so smart. Since you have so much knowledge and a plan to solve all the problems in New Albany. And of course you came up with the plans! As well as the solution to solving World Peace..You need to get your base together and run for Mayor!!Like Mr. Price said to you and all that attended. You tim flip-flop-flip-flop and attacked the mayor to others at record pace. And you don't even know what your talking about. You all need to go to the Mayors office and read: How to win friends and influence people. Cause if you had any creditability, and I mean any- after tonight you surely have to realize you are nothing in this small town USA. You tim have burned your last bridge in this town. You are getting caught in lie after lie. You supposely apologized to "your friend" who has banned you from his bar. While you continue to attack others. And stalk others as well.. I think you got a long list of people to apologize to. And believe me most of us would flat tell you to flat go to hell!!!

    You phony Indian Timmy-Have big forked tongue!!!

    this is my opinion

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:00 PM, November 02, 2005  

  • OK folks, let's not get all bent out on slamming people. That's not why we are here.
    Furthermore, let's not stoop to the low levels that the thugs do to try to intimidate, and harass. We will stick to the issues and ignore the attacks that are thrown our way. They are not worthy of responses.
    We have a lot of work to do, a lot of information to share, and a lot of documentation to expose.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 2:26 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • east ender

    They're so many things wrong with New Albany. And so many mistakes are being made. With mounds of paper work to expose. It's truly time to take the gloves off. And educate the many people of New Albany. I feel there is a true line drawn in the sand now. Or should I just say our sewers! Laura you made several excellent points last night. Several of the Council members JUST DON'T get it. They always want to connect everything to the sewer board? His famous dip into and shift/spend funds! The City Council Atty. needs to do some research-he sure wasn't sure about to much of anything last night. And then base similiar fees like Clarksville.
    Cory didn't do his job? Do you think it might be the famous blame game of this Adminstration?

    that's my opinion

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:08 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • Laura,

    Great job last night. I think you had some council members a little uncomfortable, that's why Mr. Gahan wanted you to talk instead of asking questions.

    Hey, when the taxpayer approaches the podium I thought the only rules were courtesy and brevity, now we can't ask questions. Keep up the good work. We need to keep them on their toes. We need to keep pushing them to do the right thing and expose them when they don't.

    I was also disappointed in the Mayor's response last night about his failure to act sooner on the Stormwater issue. So Cory didn't do his job in a timely manner. Since the Mayor was Cory's supervisor he should have been more observant. The statement that he now takes responsibility just doesn't cut it.

    Just my opinion, of course.

    By Blogger shirley baird, at 7:32 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • Did anyone else pick up on the comment. The county is in trouble with the fees passed on to the developers. And Mr. Mayor said: and the fees will now have to be pasted on to the county folks? (Taxpayers). Does anyone have a copy of the county plan? Or explain this?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:23 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • I think the comments regarding Timothy Deatrick should be removed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:48 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • I am quite capable of writing a prepared statement I do have a masters degree, and I do pay taxes because I do work so thats the first I heard that i dont pay taxes, guess I ought to have you as my accountant if you think you can find a way for me to not pay taxes.

    I have been to two stormwater meetings because i became a member in October and the two meetings I have attended easily amounts to more expertise than Maurice King ever had or could possibly have.

    Thanks for that suggestion about running for mayor but i think the Republicans already have their candidate in mind, does Randy Hubbard sound familiar?

    By Blogger Tim Deatrick, at 8:51 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • I agree Anon. Strike that vicious attack and attempt at character assassination.
    He lives with his aging mother--so what!
    The mayor doesn't like Tim--look up another alley; maybe Tim really did write that statement. Go figure because I know none of you could.
    He's somewhat of a quasi-environmentalist; so shouldn't he know at least something about stormwater. After all he's had hydrology (you'll have to look up the definition to this), geomorphology, environmental biology, ecology, environmental geology and the like. Also, he's worked on streams for a couple of years.
    Oh, he worked for the city of New Albany in the sewer department for 9 years. Guess what that deals with little ones????

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:03 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • It's called not paying Property Taxes, not income taxes. Duhhh...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:43 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • He lives in a household that pays property taxes, and how do you know that he doesn't help his mom pay the taxes of that property.
    Again, strike those comments before they're reported to the blogspot manager.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:50 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • Feel the need to apologize to the taxpayers, but hope you will understand that no matter what this Committee came up with, it was only going to go one way.

    Before last night's meeting, I talked with four Councilmembers and knew the vote. Couldn't stomach it, especially with people who don't even own their own homes nor pay those property taxes spouting off how nobody knows anything but them, boo hoo.

    I do have copies of the County's ordinances and only three Developers showed up for their meeting to become acquainted with "them". I even asked the County Planner if he had had any rebellion from the developers, and was told NO. See, their fees are for "new development". They collect the Stormwater Fees when they submit their plats for review.

    Go to the County Planning Office, across from the County Commissioners' office, and they have copies. They flow like molasses, they are so smooth. So, no, the County IS NOT going to pass them on to taxpayers -- and I don't care who said that. Some of us did do our homework.

    Seeing that Corey Earl found that most of the contaminants were from sewage (either cross-connections or leaky laterals); might be why that would have been TOO EXPENSIVE to follow his plan -- they WOULD HAVE HAD TO FIX THE SEWERS IN THE INNER CITY. Yeah, that would have been expensive, but not our problem, because we already paid this city to do this work. Too bad Mr. Earl found out they hadn't! Ya think that's what happened to him? Let me ponder that one for a few.

    Sorry NA, Sorry property owners, and there are more fees/taxes coming, according to the CJ.
    The agony of it all. Hope everyone downtown has a good day today. Raise and all... But, that's just my opinion.

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$$$, at 11:41 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • That's just your anonymous opinion, to be exact. Why not come out of the closet now, and take possession of you opinion?

    By Anonymous Herbert Streicher, at 11:52 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • last time I checked storm water runoff, particulary in an urbanized area does indeed pollute, thats not my opinion but scientific fact

    By Blogger Tim Deatrick, at 11:55 AM, November 03, 2005  

  • It's funny how Eastender allows anyone to slam anyone she doesn't like but deletes any other posts calling this into question.

    Be consistent!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:05 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • My concerns is saving the sanitation workers jobs. I am totally against privitizing sanitation. And would like to know who to contact to voice my concerns.
    Thank You

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:36 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • To Tim D., "Vman","Daffy"or who ever the hell you are.I am a new home owner here in New Albany,and also on a fixed income.I moved here from Louisville where I was born and raised. I moved here because I thought it was a great place to retire.I had no idea how corrupt and politically incorrect it is. I was made aware of all the fee's that I am paying for on top of the heating bill going up 71%. Fee's meaning .68 cents on my phone bill for the Mayor and his good ole boy's to use for their cell phones,WHAT THE HELL! And now 2.00 more on my water bill.Man if only I had had a crystal ball.You of course wouldn't care about anything like that being you live off the coat tail of your Mother and since you have the most and getting what you want why should you. I have attended the last two council meetings and have observed you, the Mayor and all the people who represent him. You all don't care about the good people of New Albany, all you care about is how much more money you can suck out of us beacause of mistakes that were made in the budget.As for you sir,you're a little worm trying to wiggle your way into politics of which you know nothing about and jeolous of some one like Laura who stands up for what she believes in and really gives a damn about the citizens of New Abany.Why don't you go play some where else, or GET A LIFE, or a job, or better yet, become a home owner yourself and see if you still have the most money and get what you want. As for me ,I'm sticking around for a long time. I'll be here fighting with the rest of the concerned citizens making sure that New Abany always has a voice and SPEAK AS LOUD AS I CAN.And that sir, IS FACT!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:53 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • "Little" Timmy,

    Normally, I would not post a response to a derogatory comment aimed at yours truly, but in this case considering the source and the fact I have let previous comments by you slide, I feel I must!

    Timmy, what I said was you had only been at one SWAC meeting, a special meeting called 10/13/05, before Ord. G-05-09 was brought before the Council for 1st reading
    and because of this had no prior knowledge of what had been discussed and/or transpired at the previous meetings. Oh, I forgot, apparently in listing your exten-
    sive educational background you failed to list that you are also a trained PSYCHIC, give me a break!

    Timmy, you don't know me and/or anything about me except possibly where I retired from, so don't assume you do by stating my areas of expertise. That is one of the problems with the current City Administration, they assume they are smarter than the residents of New Albany and for that reason they know what's best for us, which
    is BS!!!!

    Timmy, I'm afraid I must agree with
    others on the web that you are a Jerk, with a capital J, as well as a little suckass. I did't know whose butt you're nose was going to get stuck in first at last nights meeting Garner's or Fifer's.

    Have fun on the dog and pony show SWAC, Timmy take a gavel to one of the meetings, maybe they will let you gavel a meeting open or closed!

    And, if you have problems with these comments call me and we can meet to discuss them.

    Have a Nice Day

    By Anonymous Maurice King, at 1:08 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Well said, Maurice. Let us know if he calls you. I've got to agree with you Maurice, I have never seen how blatant it is how this administration feels about people like you and I. They think we are stupid. They have no idea as to how or where or when or what we were educated in/at/how. They don't even know the laws. It's just pitiful.
    Again, thanks for saying what you said, Maurice, because it's what alot of us are thinking.
    Thanks for standing up again last night. I know, like you, we are puppets on this Committee. You take care of yourself, and thanks for standing with us. See ya soon.

    By Anonymous Yvonne Kersey, at 1:18 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • By the way Maurice, Little Timmy even wrote an article for Baylor on his blog about the meeting last night and the only response to it is (you guessed it) Little Timmy. He even talks to himself. Glad he's on their side, and not ours -- because THEY don't care about the little people. At least some of us try to get the numbers and the facts. All I hear is BS from the other side.
    Just wanted to add that, Maurice, cos I know it hurts all of us. And, it inflamed me to see Tim attack you. But, because they have no defense, they can only try to hurl vicious, hateful, ungodly, names and insinuations at anyone who truly cares about this City, some of us call home (and pay property taxes). Thanks for listening to my opinion.

    By Anonymous Yvonne Kersey, at 1:26 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • if you think you are a puppet Yvonne why dont you just resign like Maurice did?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:51 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Probably because you would like NOTHING better. Smile, your on NA Candid camera! By the way, have a good day!

    By Anonymous Yvonne Kersey, at 2:07 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Uh, excuse my grammar -- I meant "SMILE, YOU'RE ON NA CANDID CAMERA!" My little ole opinion.

    By Anonymous Yvonne Kersey, at 2:09 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Let's focus on this for a moment. What needs 2.2 million for Charlestown Road Crossing and McCartin that requires that much TIF moolah?
    Even with that bond; we still could have used the TIFS and why they say they can't is beyond any sound reasoning, unless you don't really care.
    Vacant property does not necessarily mean vacant land. It could be over 1/2 of the houses now up for Sale who aren't paying utilities. So, how do you make them pay?
    It's not a fair doing here, "interim" period or no "interim" period. If you knew for 3 years (some of us knew for 9 or 10); then WHY didn't you act sooner? Why didn't you act like a responsible fiscal governmental agency and BUDGET the MONIES? The taxpayer has to, or really needs to, but we're being hit so fast, we can't keep up.
    And, if you care at all, the County pulled in less EDIT this past time. Even Council said that indicated less employment in the area; it is based on income taxes. God save NA. We have more battles to come; regroup and gather your strengths, you will need 'em. Only our opinion.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:17 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • What will happen with all the sanitation equipment bought by previous adminstration. We keep hearing our rates will be going up on sewers.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:08 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • CT and many others have been trying to tell us about these problems for month's. No one can't say we weren't warned. We need to re-group and hit them with facts,figures,documents,laws.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:22 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Tell you what... Roger, Randy, Tim
    Remove the derogatory, ugly comments about me, the false links to this blog, the insults against the intelligence of others who speak here, the copying of material from this site used to slander, and the use of the "trog" word on the other blogs and I might consider your offer of decent dialogue as somewhat sincere.
    Until then, your words are worthless, your actions deplorable. They serve no purpose.
    Now, we are getting back to business here.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 8:42 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • As someone whose hands remain clean albeit idle, I have to ask, Laura, what is this business that you're sponsoring. as an outlet for anyone to contribute, it has had success but for being soapbox for hooliganism: such is, I'm afraid, inexcusable.

    There is a measure of merit in the Progressive's citing this realm's inconsistancy.

    By Blogger jon faith, at 9:03 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • they will never understand, and no use trying to reason. their own agenda. u would think they would be happy and running all over town how they got another tax on the taxpayers without making their officials take responsibility for no budget knowledge. throw in the towel boys, you are in over your head. we got the names, recognize them and still disagree with your opinion and maintain we can have ours. don't like it don't read it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:09 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • how is it a tax? its called a user fee, just like all utilities, deal with it

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:27 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • NO, YOU DEAL WITH IT. Obviously YOU have plenty of money and aren't worried about the town as a whole - YOU DEAL WITH IT. Use your terminology over where the thesaurus is handy, or do you have one too? Pay the bills and then talk about it. Until then, shucky durn. OUR opinion.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:59 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • shazam them little people shore can use some big ole words, and i thought thesaurus was some kinda dinosaur outta them appalachian hills golllly lee

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:14 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Yeah, we heard an old lady say if we are having to pay for all of our services, where are our property taxes going? She made perfect sense to me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:15 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • You speak volumes about yourself. No one needs to talk to smeone like you.
    In my opinion, you are a dangerous individual.
    An angry soul, with no outlet, except on good, decent people.
    We, as a family, pity you. Someday, you'll figure it out. Until then, NONE OF US will hold our collective breaths, okay? Everybody say a collective prayer for this person, okay? Thanks. Take care, NA. Hang in there Laura. You did great last night speaking. Be sure and hold that head up high. Get loud and be proud.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:22 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • My, my, the testiness all around.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:22 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Laura,

    Our thanks to you for not letting this become a political blog. It seems if you have a difference in opinion this makes this a whatever party blog at that moment. To our family, it couldn't be further from the truth. Thanks for letting people know what is going on around town. We've been attending and are shocked by what we are seeing. As old-timers, we say you must be doing something right or they would be on you so bad. When people don't or can't allow a civil discourse without disparaging words, unthinkable on what's even printed on some blogs, it's useless to engage them. Agenda oriented. Distractions. Stepping on toes and hitting on nerves.
    That's always good, a responsibility on our part even.
    We do have a lot more to learn and will be asking a lot more questions from our Councilmembers, if they will call us back. Thank you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:32 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Working and paying your bills will make you testy, you know? Those mortgage payments, those property taxes, those utility bills, those groceries, that gasoline, the babysitters, the medicine, the Dr. bills, etc. We did not make it to entertainment, did we? Gosh, Laura, what are people going to do?

    By Anonymous HOMEOWNER/TAXPAYER, at 11:37 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • And we forgot insurance, clothing, maintenance on the car, etc. How are the elderly, the fixed income and the single families going to do it? Makes you cringe, if you really stop and think about it. Walk a mile in others' footsteps before you judge what they can and can't do. Isn't that all any of us can do?

    By Anonymous HOMEOWNER/TAXPAYER P.S., at 11:55 PM, November 03, 2005  

  • Mayor James Garner,

    Thank you Mr. Mayor for screwing the taxpayers of New Albany again. The issue is not only the $2.00-$3.00 fee placed on the backs of the taxpayers. But your own personal agenda!

    Do you really think any of us taxpayers truly believe it will stay at this amount? Hell No! Because as soon as you need some more money b-a-m... you'll hit us again.

    You have sat on your ass for 2 years knowing this had to happen. And your only excuse last night was Cory did not do his job! And you Mr. Mayor said Quote: I will take the blame. Yell right!

    I contacted the New Albany Treasurer Ms. Darlene McCoy. And she was very informative on how this could have been done thru Property Taxes Bills. She states all she would have had to do was add the software as during the actually billing process the fee would have been added on automatically.

    And this Stormwater fee could be put on the May 2006 Property Tax bills.

    Since this is being mandated the majority of County's are adding these fees to Property taxes. So the fee is placed on everybody who receives a Property Tax Bill.

    From what I have been told supposely the actual software would run anywhere between $30,000.00-$40,000.00

    So I ask myself what is wrong with this picture here?

    Since it is the job of the treasurer to collect. Why would you Mr. Mayor need all this other money?

    So what I see in the crystal ball of Mayor James Garner was your agenda to bring in house Billing back to the City of New Albany.

    It did not work before and it will not work again.

    From the actual figures I saw last night the majority of the money would be going for Adminstrative Cost.

    So "Jimmy" don't think for one minute the taxpayers of New Albany can't see what your true agenda was.

    I guess that means more money for you Mr. Mayor for sitting on another Board?


    This is my opinion


    Concern Taxpayer

    By Blogger One voice, at 12:26 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • Tell 'em how it is CT! That's right.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:11 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • And the confounded thing about it is "they" have to get 8 peoples salary out of sewers but want to hire 6 to 8 to bring billing back in under sewers. Help...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:13 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • Our family does not know how your family feels, but we feel all this ADMINISTRATION knows how to do is spend, spend, spend. Why is the County living on a ten year old budget, and ours grows by leaps and bounds? Is that why the City always complains that the County won't give their "share". Is it possible the County couldn't/didn't want to keep up? Now, that's fiscally conservative. Good job County folks, keep up the good work because the City's hanging us ALL out, no matter WHO you are. our family's opinion.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:16 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • If the Administration does not have the money to provide basic services, I'm beginning to understand where the lady said what is happening to our property taxes? That must mean it's going into their pockets, and not where it's truly needed. Guess they'll learn, this is not a rich town.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:22 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • The thing that maddens me the most is that they put in for raises for everyone into the next budget.
    I would like to know how many $$$ those raises add up to for 1 year. Probably enough to have paid the salary of at least one person who's salary has to be removed from the sewer funds.
    James kept saying they needed all that money to pay the drainage people's salary. Well, that's only 3 people. What are the other 5 salaries that are under sewers now that are not supposed to be?
    Never mind, I already know.
    Over $200K of the money he's getting is for administrative costs. DROP THE RAISES!!!
    People, we are paying for their mistakes, and it's not right!!!
    Garner said the County is about to start executing fees on residents? Flat out LIE. Nice acting James.
    We are not talking a $2-$3 monthly fee here. That's only for 12 months. Then it goes up. For commercial it's going from $18 up to $30. That's more than a 70% increase. Residential will wind up being $8-$10.
    I walked out of the meeting because of the big discussion over $1 of the INTERIM fee. BIG DEAL!
    I want to know about the REAL fee.
    Every council member who voted to put this on the residents should be ashamed of themselves.
    But, no one more than James Garner himself is to blame for the money grabbing habits of this administration.
    You may have gotten your votes, but this thing ain't over yet.
    THAT, sir, you can take to the bank.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 1:49 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • Ok, Tim call Maurice King out onto Spring Street for a High Noon showdown. That yellow belly will never show up.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:39 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • If you want to do what is best for the residents of New Albany
    Mayor James Garner
    Resign

    We have a right as resident to ask for an Independent Audit of these City accounts and funds.

    Contact your Council Member

    Sign a petition requesting an audit.

    Steve Carter
    Office Indiana Attorney General
    302 W. Washington Street
    Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
    phone 317-232-6201
    fax 317-232-7979

    Our rights are being violated.

    It's all of our money so let's demand an Audit.


    But,that's just my opinion

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:03 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • Excellent idea Anonymous!
    Let's hit the streets

    Contact your Council Member by
    phone, or email

    Someone out here in cyperland New Albany put the Council Members list of email addresses / phone numbers on the blog.

    Have a Voice demand an audit!

    Let's finally demand accountability.

    By Anonymous ROBERT MARTIN FAMILY, at 7:38 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • Great idea
    LET'S DO IT!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:18 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • Thanks concern taxpayer
    Damn your good

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:04 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • So if the fee is going to start in January who will be doing the billing? Can anyone explain.

    By Anonymous MARGRET ADAMS, at 11:36 AM, November 04, 2005  

  • New Bumper Sticker

    "Don't Re-Elect Jimmy in 2007"




    wwwwstartpackin.com

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:27 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • I want 12 bumper stickers.
    Great stocking stuffers.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:45 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • The first two or three months, it should appear on your water/sewage bill. The City is trying to break their contract with Indiana/American Water Company and bring billing back in-house. Citizens tried to have Council consider putting it on the tax rolls in order to capture vacant property, whether built on or not; the Controller blocked our efforts and we could not hold 3 public hearings on the issue within the timeframe needed. We hope and are under the impression it will appear on your tax rolls "next" year. If they can't collect their past due sewer monies; nor garbage monies; nor whatever else -- we certainly don't won't to recreate another "can't" collect list. Thanks for asking.

    By Blogger Old Mrs. Smith, at 1:00 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • The sewer board told us for months we were going to get an audit of their monies.
    Then, the Mayor said we were going to get a "financial statement". I brought that "wording" up with a council person, and he said the Mayor could call it what he wanted, but it was an AUDIT.
    Well, it was a five month financial statement; supposedly the CPAs nor the State could make heads or tails out of our monies.

    1. I ask of you where was your budget, and who approved it?
    2. Why did someone have to threaten to quit to even get any type of financials?
    3. How, if you don't have financials are you determining "all of a sudden" you have eight (8) people's salaries that need to get out of sewers immediately?
    4. If you need to get those eight people salaries taken care of and out of the sewers funds absolutely right now (or now fund them with this new interim fee), how can you afford to bring billing back in-house and hire 6 to 8 more people?
    5. How?
    ANYONE? Thanks.

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$, at 1:16 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • That's a problem with our family too. He had a year to get his hands around it, and you would think the latest Controller would have come up to snuff within six months on new software, at least, but not this late into his term. Its turned into a joke for us. Isnt that sad. Someone said we should say "that's our opinion", so we said it.

    By Anonymous A Democrat, at 1:22 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Roger calls up the mayor's office and tells the receptionist:
    "I'd like to become the next Mayor of New Albany."
    The receptionist stated: "What are you an idiot?"
    Roger replied: "Why, is it reguired?"

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:33 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Randy, Jimmy, Roger and Little Timmy are traveling in a car together in New Albany. A tornado comes along and whirls them up into the air and tosses them thousands of yards away. They all fall into a daze.

    When they come to and extract themselves from the Dorango SUV, they realize they're in the fabled Land of Oz.

    They decide to go see the famous Wizard of Oz. The Wizard is known for granting people their wishes.

    Roger says, "I'm going to ask the Wizard for a brain, lot's of Budlight, and help me get my driver's License back."

    Little Timmy responds, "I'm going to ask the Wizard for a group picture of the four of us. So I can findly feel accepted. And a brand new skeeter gun that shoots blanks.

    Randy speaks up, "I'm going to ask the Great Wizard for my very own Bed and Breakfast." So I can pretend to be important. And also ask the Wizard to make me chief of staff for my Mayor.

    Jimmy is screaming, I'm going ask the Wizard to talk the lady out of running for Mayor, Cause if she does she will surely beat my ass...

    It's our opinion

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:17 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • so funny

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:02 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Nobody up to the issues today, huh? Oh, Well. Must have hit a nerve, got phone calls attacks are on. Bring 'em on. Have a good weekend, NA.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:09 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • anonymous
    These people like daffy,duffy,aka little timmy. aka the lap dog. attack...attack...attack....
    Issues? He can't speak without the mayor pulling his strings. We know the issues. And we are constantly defending and giving the facts out.How's Mrs. Smith doing. I know with the weather getting cold she is struggling with her heating bill? God bless that lady's heart. Her way of communication is through the computer. Sure is cheaper than a phone bill. Maybe we need to help raise some money to help her. What do you think? The little people believe in helping each other. God Bless all the little people. Were all going to stick together. Going to be a long winter. Life is hard wenough without all these extra fees. Property taxes due next week. Were all struggling!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:52 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Hey good people of New Albany. Let's persue this Audit! Let's do it now! Get the petition Laura,and let me know when to sign PLEEESE!

    By Anonymous FED UP TAXPAYER, at 6:04 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • See, the problem is they have money for everything else, but when you want an "AUDIT" (The Dreaded A Word), there is no money. Go figure. Our family is ready to sign up too.

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$$, at 6:10 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • I think you all are right. I would have to agree that this sounds like the next logical step.
    In my opinion, we should call for an audit.
    I want to know exactly where the money is, and where it isn't, and what funds are being used to support what costs.
    We will organize and move forward with the necessary steps.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 6:53 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA...YOU GOT MY SUPPORT LAURA.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:22 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Yellow dog

    So when did you become an expert on this blog? So let's debate the issues! Were all proud owners of the book how to win friends and influence people! So what is your problem. Apparently you hate GWB. Not all republicans aren't all bad. Some of my best friends are Republicans! And I'd trust them with my life..So lets debate..Bring it on!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:47 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • $$$$$$$$ Apparently yellow dog wants to debate. So let's see what he has to say....1ST of all let's someone tell us one thing Mayor has done for the Property tax payers?? Attacks, out of control. Sir your talking to a logical,experience people who have all kind of facts, paper work and enough info and dirt on the people in this town it is totally sick'n by all this so called C.R.A.P. GOING ON.

    By Blogger One voice, at 7:54 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • There is something up though, Laura, that I just can't put my finger on with OUR monies.
    Let's take a stab at the order of events, just this year alone:
    1. The State announced they have thrown up THEIR hands with, what, the 02 & 03 years? I would ask where is the 2004 State Audit, for the General Fund and the Sewers.
    That would require a call upstate or a talk with your council person to get that info, I would think.
    2. The local accounting firm threw their hands up supposedly on the sewer "audit" and simply gave us a five month financial statement.
    3. Now these figures are popping up all over the place about sanitation, stormwater & drainage work, rate hikes on sewers threatened, layoffs of 8 employees that shouldn't have been in "sewers" in the first place, according to the Mayor.
    4. Layoffs (or outsourcing) of sanitation because of numbers emerging, retrieved from city records, that are now being condemned by certain council members.
    5. An "Audit" was performed under the last Administration on the "sewer" fund, and even then there was a disclaimer on the bottom (and I'm quoting Monroe Shine) "This is not a true and actual audit. This audit was performed according to City specifications." (Excuse me. Let me take a deep breath here.)
    6. To me, either they have numbers or they don't have numbers. Either they budgeted correctly, or they didn't and circumvented Council and the General Fund by putting these employees in the wrong fund to begin with.
    7. The sewer department has to do more work on our sewers. The inner City has not been repaired. We have not heard from the EPA. We have not collected our monies from Georgetown. We have not collected our past due accounts by properly placing property liens on the "free flushers".
    8. Taxpayers/Citizens maintained all along under the last Administration the Robert E. Lift and Corydon Pike, the Hampton Inn, behind WATCO, etc., had to be fixed to meet the Federal Consent Decree. They maintained that would be done under the guise of maintenance, yet they diverted the EDIT monies for TWO years to pay a Bond and do not have the monies to pay OUR EDIT monies back for the inner-city maintenance.
    9. Some Developers have been waiting for TWO years to build, because we are supposedly on a sewer ban, only so many credits, you know? The Robert E. Lift and Corydon Pike HAVE TO BE FIXED in order to bring the LaFollette Station Line in. Of course, citizens and rate payers were told "no, we don't have to do that right now". WELL WE DO, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY? Where is the money going to come for that? These people SWORE on a Bible in Court this line could come in without any construction having to be done, now, well, you know, they just didn't do something right.

    How many new buidings have you seen go up in NA in the past four years? The EPA has aerial photography they utilize. Truly fascinating stuff on their website for the public.
    10. The Sewer Board wants to bring our billing for sewers back in-house. That didn't work well before, but I guess we are going to try it again. Where will the monies come for this project? Is this why the re-funding of those eight positions and the elimination of our sanitation workers - I ask your opinion.
    Unless the BIG BOYS step in, I don't know we will ever get an Audit, or the answers WE ALL DESERVE. IT IS OUR MONEY, and THEY DO WORK FOR US. Speak out Loud, NA. Get LOUD and BE PROUD.
    Thanks for letting me ask questions. What a great forum!

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$, at 7:55 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • That was so kind of someone to inquire as to me and my family's wellbeing. My friend, who is 91 God bless her, got out of the hospital yesterday with her new pacemaker. She has been such a help with our neighborhoods and the block watch programs.
    She's struggling with these high medicine prices, so many things it would take all night. We're not sure how all of the elderly nor fixed income people will survive this winter, the way things get forecasted on that newschannel.
    You are too kind in your offer of helping out, but keeping us informed is helping us out in your own small way. We thank you for caring though. And say a prayer for all the Old Mrs. Smiths' out there. We all need those.

    By Blogger Old Mrs. Smith, at 8:03 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Don't forget the double sets of books overton had? Not yet does the city know the results from the EPA? Can't build shit if you don't have sewer credits. I also understand their is not enough money there for bond money coming due. We have so many streets that even the fire trucks can't go down. And if they did then the whole street would fall thru. Were paying Indiana water for the fire hydrant fees. And god forbid any homeowners house catches on fire they don't even know if the damn thing works tell they hook up a fire hose. Sorta too late if your damn house is on fire. Also look at the 3 Million dollars spent on the new fire house on spring st. 32 plug ins don't work. The wiring is bad. They have lights they can't even turn off unless they unscrew the light bulbs. Thats a bunch of B/S for 3 Million dollars.
    also does people realize how many employees have died with cancer that worked in the City County Building? What about the parking garage. That was suppose to pay for it's self. And hasn't. Were spend alot of money on maintance, utilities,elevator repair fee's and etc. Plus there is alot of cracks in the piles that hold it up. There has been so many bad investments. And were still paying for these mistakes. Spent over $40 million dollars and we have raw sewage behind the Hampton Inn. As well as other places. The streets and all the pot holes are tearing up are cars. should we keep going on alot of what has been wasted. Let alone were still paying for.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:21 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Yeah, don't even get me started with that "parking garage" and the "TAJ MAHAL FIREHOUSE". The misspending has been going on for years for who ever wants to debate any of us, all we're trying to do is clean the mess up. Got a problem with it? Can't stand the heat? GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. We do know where the misspending has occurred, and is still occurring, and that bothers YOU? When you and several others have years of financial documents and have taken this kind of abuse from previous administratins -- well, you are just a 'THANG'. That's your opinion of course, but then again I may feel you might just be one of the ones taking MY MONEY down the street. But, that's my opinion. We brought out the questions, let's see you answers them, "BIG DOG". Hold on....

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, at 8:28 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • There are truly some funny remarks coming out here. No guts! Hysterical...
    Still laughing how about you $$$$$$$ don't you think these comments are some more smoke and mirros. Seems like were getting alittle to close!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:29 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Can you imagine if there was a bad fire on Market St. Them houses would burn block by block. And like Steve Price said they could of had one in the west end and spring as well. Considering all the older homes down there. No wonder why many business are moving out Charlestown Road. Mc Cartin was smart to go and buy alot of land out there.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:38 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • concern taxpayer

    Didn't they "shot ole" yeller for stealin! You got all of our support.

    Thanks Concern Taxpayer for standing up for all of us.

    By Anonymous ROBERT MARTIN FAMILY, at 9:09 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • I'm taking it as a threat, seeing I live in one of those big older homes. Thank you Laura.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:21 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • For all you book lovers.. Got a great one for you to read. Called: Games Mother Never Taught.

    You folks really know what's going on in this City.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:24 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Ms. Oates:
    Why do you continue to sponsor this relative bookburning?

    By Blogger jon faith, at 10:02 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • I would like to explain to the readers about the problem concerning the fire house that use to be on main st. In 2003 overton as Mayor was determined to move and build the new firehouse on Spring st. We passed petitions went door to door through all of Market st. and the entire neighborhoods to get all the people thoughts and concerns about the moving of the firehouse. We had fireman go before the Council to try to convince them it was a bad move for all the people that was being covered by the Main St. Fire House. The fire Dept. employees even done a time test and a delay study. Which meant if there was a fire then it would take alot longer from Spring St. to all of Market-Cherry ST. Corydon Pike area. I grew up on Market ST. and as a child we use to jump from one roof to the other. As most of you know if you live in this area. For the 3 million dollars that was spent for the Spring St. Fire House. There could have been another one placed at the old Buckles Store on Main St. For both locations it should have not cost 3 million dollars. The Fire House on Grantline Road was built for $500,000.00. aS I tried to explain at the last Council Meeting Mr. Price told the Mayor they have spent 3 Million dollars when it should have been built for $2 million, and could have built the other one to protect the market st. and surrounding area. And this would have protected the residents of this area. I have family that still live on W. Market Street..IN no way did I do nothing in my previous comments but try to explain what myself and others feel is still a problem of our City. And if their was a fire it would damage alot of homes because 1. most of them are wood.
    2.And they sit almost on top of each other...
    3. It is and has always to me been a serious problem for New Albany. And this is why I made the comment about houses burning in the Market St. area. I have contacted Laura by phone to explain what I feel is a big danger to all redisdence in that area. And like I told her this is and should be a major priority to everyone living there..I am sorry if I offended anyone who is a resident. But I feel this is a big issue to alot of people. And many of us today are still not happy about the City's decision.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:07 PM, November 04, 2005  

  • Especially with the duct tape on the roof, unscrewing light bulbs just to turn them off, what was it a $300 or $400 microwave, which we still haven't found in the store, etc., etc. We still don't know what or if the insurance for the City went up because of lack of response time to the west end of town, specifically the Corydon Pike area. (They really do check those things!) It's just more monies to look into, anonymous. Take heart. There doesn't seem to be enough people to handle all of the money, but yet, according to "them", WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. We just can't get it straight, us taxpayers, heh?
    Later. Just our opinion, though.

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, at 2:21 AM, November 05, 2005  

  • To Jon Faith: The book "Games Mother Never Taught You" was a requisite for any woman climbing a corporate ladder. Surely you know that. Ladies weren't suppose to be team players, you know what I mean? Heard about that glass ceiling that exists? And God help you if you have beauty and brains -- that's really a threat to some.

    Anyways, don't know how you construed that recommended reading of "Ole Yeller" and "Games Mother Never Taught You" as bookburning?!? But, that would be my opinion, and I appreciate yours.

    By Anonymous $$$$$$$$$$$, at 2:26 AM, November 05, 2005  

  • Thought it was pretty quiet in "Blog" land today, until I read the Tribune article from an officer named Todd Bailey.

    Always being happy when the Police Officers are happy (having marched and supported them under the last Administration), I would still beg to differ with Mr. Bailey's take on "things". A few omissions were left out that might should be mentioned here, for the taxpayers.
    1. It's always nice to be able to say those things when you do not LIVE in the City of New Albany. If it's so great, why do you live in Greenville, at my expense by taking your car there?
    2. It's still not going to get the Administration and their employees, not just the police officers, out of trouble for not keeping logs and reporting these "perks" to the IRS. Taxpayers who own their own business and use "their" personal automobile, like Councilwoman Crump, know how to handle this issue with taxes, receipts, etc., trust me.
    3. And, it's always nice to know a police officer's cell phone number so he can respond to certain individuals' "perceived" notions of threats personally, without going through the switchboard like the rest of the citizens. Some people have witnessed this personally.
    4. The problem really is we are talking about not taking cars out of the City, and having logs kept, right? Didn't the Council's Committee already take care of these issues? Why this letter and why now, I ask of you as a taxpayer? Let's not debate it in the funny papers. Thanks, but this is just my opinion.
    5. It's only money.
    6. These are my opinions, and only mine. SPEAKING OUT LOUD about it and letting taxpayers know the REST OF THE STORY is the purpose. The rest of the story is not "perceived", it's factual.
    Have a nice weekend, New Albany.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:17 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • How can Police Officer Bailey be allowed to write such letters to the
    Tribune when he is not a resident of the City of New Albany and does not pay any of the City of New Albany property taxes that we pay? We, the taxpayers of City of New Albany pay property taxes in addition to fireplug fees, communication fees on our telephone bill, sewer bills, recycle fees, garbage fees and in addition, Mr. Bailey, we are paying your salary.

    Now--- are you afraid that you are
    going to lose your FREE GASOLINE in your take-home police car?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:54 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • JUST A THOUGHT--- IF TAKE-HOME CARS AND FREE GASOLINE ARE SUCH A GOOD IDEA, THEN, WHY DON'T BUSINESSES DO THAT FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES?

    I WILL BET THAT ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES AT PILLSBURY, KROGERS, GENERAL ELECTRIC OR WALMART WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE TAKE HOME CARS AND FREE GAS.

    WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS A GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL FOR THESE BUSINESSES?

    I THINK THAT THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD SAY, "YOU MUST BE CRAZY" TO SUGGEST THAT WE PROVIDE FREE TAKE-HOME CARS FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES !

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:04 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • It's just the law is so strict concerning government vehicles being used for personal time. Doesn't it count as a "perk" and is considered part of your compensation? That would be why a log and other information is required to be kept, because TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THIS "little" PERK, and last time we checked, we were told OUR CITY is broke. Hope this Administration won't be asking for more, because there ain't no more; there wasn't in the FIRST PLACE!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:10 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • The comments above bring up some good
    questions-----

    HOW MANY POLICEMAN DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND DO NOT PAY ANY OF OUR CITY OF NEW ALBANY PROPERTY TAXES OR FEES.?

    I WILL REPEAT--- HOW MANY MEMBERS OF OUR POLICE FORCE DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY?

    WHERE CAN WE FIND THIS INFO?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:16 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • To the 8:04 posting, NO, they think WE ARE CRAZY. Sad, isn't it?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:18 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • Council controls the monies, if they have correct financial reports (and that may be questionable -- even heard of disagreement of different figures being provided to different individuals on Council). Personally, I wouldn't expect a Council person to respond on here, but don't know why they couldn't get the information for you through a phone call. Good questions and comments, though. And, that's my opinion.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:30 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • its called freedom of the press, officer bailey can write a letter to the editor to any newspaper he wants to

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:10 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • I'm still curious about the rationality that this "take home" policy makes New Albany safer by making the Police cars more visable.
    To quote: "With regard to public safety, the more police cars on the street, the more visability, the less crime." huh?
    Didn't he say earlier that in attempts to lessen costs, the Mayor and the Chief mandated...
    "no private or "off duty" driving."
    Then how is there more visability?
    Especially when the car is parked in Greenville, or Georgetown? How does that make the streets of New Albany safer?
    Also, can someone then explain why they are using the City Police cars in their "off" hours for traffic control, or private Security jobs?
    Oh, that's right, they need to do a little moonlighting to make some extra money. Lord knows we don't pay them enough (highest paid in the State).
    He says, "they (Police) too want to help the community with any financial problems."
    Glad you offered. We'll take you up on that generosity.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 10:14 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • The figures I am hearing about this issue staggers me. I'm hearing almost 1/2, 32 or 33 officers live outside this city. How does that help our safety? But, don't forget about those take home cars at City Hall, Sanitation Dept., Street Dept, etc.

    Just a thought for another book that may need perused. It's called The Hundreth Monkey, by Ken Kesey? from KY. Not sure I got that name right, it's been so long. You may have your hundreth monkey now, Laura. Take care!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:59 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • To the 10:10 posting - the same way YOU printed a FALSE ARTICLE about someone in this Community, just to attack them? We ALL know, don't you know? Smile, you are on New Albany's Candid Camera.
    That's OUR opinion.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:02 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • I really shouldn't come down on the officers themselves, as they are only doing what any of us would do.
    They are playing by the rules as they have been set down by management and the City Government.
    I'm sure all of us would take advantage of opportunities to bring more money home, and to move ourselves up the economic ladder.
    This issue really falls square on the shoulders of the MANAGEMENT.
    The police officers would be foolish not to partake of the perks of the job. If any of us were offered the free use of a car, we sure wouldn't turn it down!
    But, in this time of fiscal crisis, the policies really should be re-examined as to the effectiveness vs. the costs.
    For this, I hold the Administration accountable.
    And, it's not just Police cars, but every "City" vehicle out there.
    I think it deserves some digging for the real numbers.

    By Blogger East Ender, at 11:08 PM, November 05, 2005  

  • First Monday of the month, City council meeting. See you there.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:45 AM, November 07, 2005  

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